1971 Jordan Creator - Data Dump
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1971 Jordan Creator - Data Dump
So...
Time for the official data dump version of this thread...
There is not too much known about this super rare beast other than it was made by Jordan Electronics (makers of the famous Bosstone) and that it was inspired by the Big Muff. It may or may not have been from 1971. The pot codes date it to the 4th week of 1971, but there is a serial number on the bottom, 7015873, that could possibly date it to 1973 instead? The label on the bottom places the Jordan company in Pasadena, CA which could give a clue to the real date, but I'm not sure when they moved from Alhambra, CA to Pasadena... So for now, the mystery continues.
As for the sound.
Well it sits somewhere between a Big Muff and an early ProCo Rat. It is not nearly as woolly or seeping in harmonics and overtones as the Triangle Muffs from the same period, as to say its not as "fuzzy". But it does pack a super mean punch and is extremely focused. It can do the sitar/violin kind of sounds pretty perfectly and on the low end it is the DOOM master. For a similar minded pedal check out the highest gain setting on the Monolith Oracle.
The controls are; Sustain (gain), Tone, and the treadle is Volume. The output level is the only downfall of the Creator as it hovers just around Unity, so the use of the treadle is almost pointless. The Sustain knob is pretty cool and controls the fuzz very well. But the real magic happens when backing off the guitar volume, that is when you can get it into more familiar Big Muff territory with a nice soft crunch type of sound. The Tone knob is pretty insane. On the high end of things this pedal becomes ear piercingly loud and just not a setting I would ever use. It seems to cut the low end quite a bit too. But when you start to move the Tone knob towards the middle is when you begin to hit the wide array of Sweet Spots. It's not as expressive as a Big Muff tone section, but it's trying...
Overall I would say this pedal is great for some unsaturated, thick, precise fuzz/distortion. It spits out some hair and has the capabilities to go real dark at the same time. As with every fuzz I get, my test always involves a bunch of Sabbath riffs; and Creator just destroys them.
Time for the official data dump version of this thread...
There is not too much known about this super rare beast other than it was made by Jordan Electronics (makers of the famous Bosstone) and that it was inspired by the Big Muff. It may or may not have been from 1971. The pot codes date it to the 4th week of 1971, but there is a serial number on the bottom, 7015873, that could possibly date it to 1973 instead? The label on the bottom places the Jordan company in Pasadena, CA which could give a clue to the real date, but I'm not sure when they moved from Alhambra, CA to Pasadena... So for now, the mystery continues.
As for the sound.
Well it sits somewhere between a Big Muff and an early ProCo Rat. It is not nearly as woolly or seeping in harmonics and overtones as the Triangle Muffs from the same period, as to say its not as "fuzzy". But it does pack a super mean punch and is extremely focused. It can do the sitar/violin kind of sounds pretty perfectly and on the low end it is the DOOM master. For a similar minded pedal check out the highest gain setting on the Monolith Oracle.
The controls are; Sustain (gain), Tone, and the treadle is Volume. The output level is the only downfall of the Creator as it hovers just around Unity, so the use of the treadle is almost pointless. The Sustain knob is pretty cool and controls the fuzz very well. But the real magic happens when backing off the guitar volume, that is when you can get it into more familiar Big Muff territory with a nice soft crunch type of sound. The Tone knob is pretty insane. On the high end of things this pedal becomes ear piercingly loud and just not a setting I would ever use. It seems to cut the low end quite a bit too. But when you start to move the Tone knob towards the middle is when you begin to hit the wide array of Sweet Spots. It's not as expressive as a Big Muff tone section, but it's trying...
Overall I would say this pedal is great for some unsaturated, thick, precise fuzz/distortion. It spits out some hair and has the capabilities to go real dark at the same time. As with every fuzz I get, my test always involves a bunch of Sabbath riffs; and Creator just destroys them.
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Re: well, the Time Machine just got back from 1971...
I must have missed it...but where in the fuck do you find that?
More of a statement that a question.
Fantastic.
More of a statement that a question.
Fantastic.
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Re: well, the Time Machine just got back from 1971...
Damn, that is clean! Hell of a score.
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Here comes the Gut Shots.
now they were a little awkward to take photos of because of how the layout is, so hopefully you can stay with it.
It looks like its running on 4 silicon Motorola SPS-3353 transistors.
The pots date it to the 4th week of 1971.
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now they were a little awkward to take photos of because of how the layout is, so hopefully you can stay with it.
It looks like its running on 4 silicon Motorola SPS-3353 transistors.
The pots date it to the 4th week of 1971.
137 7104
Oh, DB? That's just slang for Dandy Big muff collector.
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Updated with gut shots galore!
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Sweet! It still looks brand new. Have not found much info about the Creator. One guy tells me it was '71 and another '72, but I have yet to find a dated catalog or ad to verify. That is likely a date/serial code on the bottom, but either the '70 or the '73 could be the year. Since the pot date is '71, probably '73 is the year.
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