Rooster to push a fuzz or distortion using clean amp

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Post by tekbow » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:36 am

On the subject of your pink flesh, i have a pig mine and Marc's pedals do what they say on the box :) they are indeed gilmour, ernie isley, or billy corgan (depending on your skreddy). but they can do an awful lot more too. Great pedals
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Post by ians371 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:01 am

Yes I agree about Skreddy pedals and marc's genius.
Just wondering if placing a treble booster like the DAM Red Rooster ahead of the PF would result in some good lead tones ??

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Post by thecricketchorus » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:47 am

pothole wrote:Welcome to the forum. I'm running an AC15HW1 as well and would say that a Red Rooster is required for your setup for what you want to do. It's the magic button.
Roosters are epic. I don't have an AC15, but I completely support the above sentiment.
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Post by the treble boost kid » Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:11 am

I might have to pick one of these up someday.....i was thinking of installing an effects loop, but this might be a more friendly option....switching amps etc....

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Post by devnulljp » Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:26 am

Another option is the Ho attenuator with a built-in FX loop. I haz one of those with the AC30. That way you don't need an extra power amp/speaker -- just put the delay in line after the power amp dirt and before the speakers.
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Re: Rooster to push a fuzz or distortion using clean amp

Post by duende » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:52 am

Guess I'm not seeing the problem here. I run my rooster at 2o'clock into my clean twin. Have a delay and mod in line after the rooster. Fuzzes before klon after.

Stays clean until I kick in the Klon.

Keep it simple I say
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Post by devnulljp » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:56 am

Because the best way to play a Vox is to crank it and shove a Rangie in front of it, but nobody wants delay going into a dirty amp -- it sounds like mush.
I suspect a cranked Twin would blow your face off with or without the Rooster?
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Post by duende » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:09 pm

Haha.. Yeah

I crank my twin with the bright switch off. About 6 typically, this way it acts like a leveling amplifier and chills out all the volume jumps between pedals.

My delay has a bit of a jump too.

Brian May really started this whole post pre-amp distortion delay sound. Pretty tricky if you ask me. Impedence changes can be a real life sucker on one's guitar tone. Worked for him obviously.
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Post by tekbow » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:39 pm

well.. i think that the post preamp thing applies more to modern amps because of the levels of distortion they were capable of (say from the mid 70's thru when master volumes started coming to prominence) via the pre amp. a lot of earlier distortion/fuzz/overdrive was pre-preamp from the use of a pedal knocking into a cooking poweramp section which is why the earlier "distorted delays" don't sound completely like mush, so essentially the delay isn't affected as much by power amp over drive as it is by pregain. In fact gilmour sound was all pedals running into an amp with huge headroom, the power amp was adding harmonic complexity in that case. The whole distorted delay vs delayed distortion applies more to master volume amps with huge amounts of preamp gain and no fx loop
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Post by ians371 » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:26 pm

That's how I am going to proceed,just like Gilmour.Using a clean amp setting and pedals.This way by delay , reverb and mod will be in front of the amp.If he can do it so can I.
Thanks for all the input guys,much appreciated.
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