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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Cado » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:58 pm

Mr. Nice, thanks for making me look good! I think this is important too:

In 1966, Mayer hooked up with a promising young guitarist named Jimi Hendrix, who was enthralled by the pedal designer’s new Octavia effect. “Jimi was a total tone freak,” recalls Mayer. “That’s all we ever talked about.” Which both Beck and Page maintain Mayer abandoned them once he began working for Hendrix, he flatly denies the allegations. “I think Jimmy and Jeff got intimidated when I met Hendrix and started working with him,” says Mayer, laughing. “They didn’t call me up after that. They could have had anything they wanted had they bothered to ask me!”

Mayer continued to work with Hendrix until the guitarist’s death in 1970.

I think this greatly increases the probability that this fuzz was not used by Page on any Yardbirds or Zeppelin recordings. How good are the Mayer reproductions? :hmm:
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Cado » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:15 pm

I guess that's why all those guys go to Pete Cornish these days.
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Poorbob » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:45 pm

Thanks for all the great comments guys.

Cado, I don't get why the fuzz couldn't have been used on any Yardbirds or Zep recordings. And for the most part, the Mayer Repo's suck.

Sickle, the link was provided earlier in the thread, here it is: http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3410

I hope people here understand I'm not actually upset at anyone and especially not anyone here. The thread linked above has some people that think I'm some other guy. I live in Palm Desert, CA and the guy who owned the Mayer fuzz lives in Upland, CA, so all this talk of Don Mare has nothing to do with me.

Side note: Apparently, there are MKI replica enclosures somewhere in Riverside, CA. The guy mentioned it to me last night, but we're gonna go into more detail as to how to go about building a Page Fuzz clone when he gets back around the 3rd.
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Cado » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:38 pm

Poorbob, Page could have used it on those recordings. I just think that the facts surrounding the Mayer pedal lead me to think that he didn't. Here's why: Being that Page wanted the unit to get the "2000 Pound Bee" tone, so it must of had a buzzy quality to the tone. All of Page's Yardbirds & Zep I fuzz tones all have that MKII sound. Around the time he switched from the Tele to the LP, he sarted using the MKIII. That is the Zep II fuzz sound (Lemon Song, Bring It On Home.) After that, there is very little fuzz on his recordings. Tangerine, Black Dog & No Quarter are all that come to mind. I'm not 100% certain & after my last post I listened to clips of the RM Axis Fuzz; I would never use one, to say the least. I wonder if Beck used this on "Shapes Of Things?"
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Poorbob » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:46 pm

Interesting you say he used an MKIII on Zep II. Is this the Rotosound MKIII that I have? That would be a bonus. :dance:

No worries Cado, I was just trying to gage your reasoning on why you said that.
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by tatter » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:35 pm

Just out of interest, has anyone with a 1965 ever tried to get the early Zep sounds from it, ie. with a Telecaster, volume rolled off a bit maybe?

The Mayer pedal was probably a modded FZ-1 like the MKI Tone Bender so it might give us some clues...
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by Cado » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:57 pm

Poorbob wrote:Interesting you say he used an MKIII on Zep II. Is this the Rotosound MKIII that I have? That would be a bonus. :dance:

No worries Cado, I was just trying to gage your reasoning on why you said that.
I think it is. Match up the rest of his rig during this period (Les Paul, Marshall) as best as you can, play a few of those riffs & let us know how close you come to the sound. :cheers:
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by tatter » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:05 pm

Sickle wrote:
tatter wrote:Just out of interest, has anyone with a 1965 ever tried to get the early Zep sounds from it, ie. with a Telecaster, volume rolled off a bit maybe?

The Mayer pedal was probably a modded FZ-1 like the MKI Tone Bender so it might give us some clues...
That's only a part of his signal chain, though! What amps was he going into? I've seen plenty of Univox stage shots but what did he record with..

See, now you guys have dragged me into this shit, man!

:fu:
I think he used a Supro combo...

... then there's the micing techniques... :bangs head:
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by kb892 » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:13 pm

I fucking hate when you write a long reply, hit the post button, and the fucking thing dissafuckingpears! Anyways, to make a very long story short.... Beck supposedly borrowed this fuzz from Page to do the intro to Heart Full Of Soul. I tend to buy this as it really doesn't sound nearly as crazy as the MKI used on later Yardbirds tunes but my thinking is that the only Page recordings you'll hear this fuzz on are stuff he did as a session guy well before the Yardbirds stint he did. Just my opinion, of course.
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Re: Page Fuzz

Post by tatter » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:17 pm

The very first Tone Bender (gold wedge-shaped one) is also an FZ-1 variant, modded to run on 9-volts. So probably would share the same characteristics as the mysterious Mayer pedal :geek:
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