So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist.

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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by HorseyBoy » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:55 pm

The problem with most legal 'proceedings' is that they're all about money and intimidation. They're simply trying to bluff you right now but potentially they could pursue it, which would be annoying as all fuck to you, Brook.
Do these jokers really hold the registered trademark for 'Dallas Rangemaster'? If they do, it would probably include 'Rangemaster' on its own (it wouldn't necessarily have to have 'Dallas' in front of it to make it an infringement). In any case, your argument - if it gets to that; right now you're better off ignoring them, I reckon - is that the 'mark' has essentially lapsed because every man and his dog uses the term 'Rangemaster' as a generic term for a treble booster. It's understood as such by the market (in this case, gear heads like us) and nobody in that market would confuse your product with anything made by the British Pedal Company. It's a clone (and a damn fine one) and everybody knows it.
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by Yggdrazil » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:02 pm

:) Fuck them & fuck them hard.

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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by peps1 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:22 pm

HorseyBoy wrote:Do these jokers really hold the registered trademark for 'Dallas Rangemaster'?
Yep, "Dallas Rangmaster" and "DALLAS RANGMASTER"

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/ ... arch=False

My counsel seems to think they would have had a really hard time getting "Rangemaster" for the same reasons you point out, hence them not even trying, by the looks of it.

Adding to that, I (along with may other people) have been selling products described as "Rangemaster" in kit and pedal pre 9/9/09 (when the trade mark files) negating there rights to enforce Rangemaster alone as an infringement.......akin to anyone being able to make a cola, without Coca-Cola kicking off.

but I guess we will see!
Yggdrazil wrote:By the way, Jeremy Brett was the best actor ever embodying Sherlock Holmes.
When I read Conan Doyle, I always picture Jeremy Brett in my mind.
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by HorseyBoy » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:36 pm

^ One of the ways you try to prove a trademark hasn't lapsed and that you've actively tried to enforce your rights is by sending cease and desist letters like the one you were sent, so maybe they just sent it as a matter of course for their files and you won't hear from them again.
Yes, fuck them and fuck them hard, but it would be a fucking travesty if you actually had to spend real money and time defending something like this.
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by Electric Warrior » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:38 pm

peps1 wrote: Adding to that, I (along with may other people) have been selling products described as "Rangemaster" in kit and pedal pre 9/9/09 (when the trade mark files) negating there rights to enforce Rangemaster alone as an infringement.......akin to anyone being able to make a cola, without Coca-Cola kicking off.

but I guess we will see!
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by devnulljp » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:51 pm

They're screwed if they think they own Rangemaster

http://www.rangemaster.co.uk/
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by Dr Tony Balls » Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:59 pm

devnulljp wrote:They're screwed if they think they own Rangemaster

http://www.rangemaster.co.uk/
HAHA was just gonna post this.
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Post by Steve » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:11 pm

Philip wrote:Should have voted Yes. :coffee:


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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by Electric Warrior » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:17 pm

devnulljp wrote:They're screwed if they think they own Rangemaster

http://www.rangemaster.co.uk/
Trademarks are always registered for very specific ranges of goods.
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Re: So, The British Pedal Company sent me a cease and desist

Post by Coolhand78 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:20 pm

Not that it was ever in doubt but what a bunch of lying, deceiving pratts!
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