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Still looking for that lovely heybulldog sound

Post by andyourbirdcansing »

If you guys remember me from the older version of the forum, you may remember my pushing and prodding of the captain for a hey bulldog sounding fuzzbox. I know Stuart at one point was playing with a similar sounding circuit. Has anyone come up with anything recently that would cover that sound. Its essentially the vox built in unit.
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Re: Still looking for that lovely heybulldog sound

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It's pretty mild for a fuzz.
The guitar/amp combo will have much more
affect on the whole sound. I'd say an FZ-1 type
circuit with the fuzz amount rolled way back would
do it. Pretty similar to the MKI at any rate.
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Re: Still looking for that lovely heybulldog sound

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i dont know what the "built in vox" circuit is but when i heard this sound clip i was thinking my VT orange sunshine can pretty much sound like that (i love it) and is apparently based on a vox distortion-booster...

analogguru wrote:The Vintage Technology - Orange Sunshine is a 1:1 clone of the Vox V816 Distortion Booster:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vox/v816

The Vintage Technology - Banana appears to be nearly identical (can´t determine the value of the orange input capacitor) with an added volume control as can be found in the Vox V8161:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vox/v8161

And the Vintage Technology - Toad is a 1:1 clone of the Vox V8162:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vo ... ionbooster

analogguru
from this thread...

http://stompboxes.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... 115#p86115

so id imagine a VT might be what your lookin' for. there not mo' money and pretty fun, so definitely worth checking out

hope that helps

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Post by andyourbirdcansing »

It is similar to my mk1.5 however, there is a roundness to the tone and there is a little brighter attack but yet better sustain. at times it seems like its cocked with a wah. Which makes me think its most likely not a germ tranny but more of a silicon type of circuit. It is light gain but yet again, it has that sustain and attack that I like.
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Re: Still looking for that lovely heybulldog sound

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professor plum wrote:i dont know what the "built in vox" circuit is but when i heard this sound clip i was thinking my VT orange sunshine can pretty much sound like that (i love it) and is apparently based on a vox distortion-booster...

analogguru wrote:The Vintage Technology - Orange Sunshine is a 1:1 clone of the Vox V816 Distortion Booster:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vox/v816

The Vintage Technology - Banana appears to be nearly identical (can´t determine the value of the orange input capacitor) with an added volume control as can be found in the Vox V8161:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vox/v8161

And the Vintage Technology - Toad is a 1:1 clone of the Vox V8162:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/vo ... ionbooster

analogguru
from this thread...

http://stompboxes.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... 115#p86115

so id imagine a VT might be what your lookin' for. there not mo' money and pretty fun, so definitely worth checking out

hope that helps

-plum

Interesting, the banana seems like it might in theory get close to that sound.
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Post by andyourbirdcansing »

I believe its definitely the conqueror that was also used in sgt. pepper and this gem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE2Vdcv9Q_o

the problem with building just the distortion circuit is the amp may have had an effect on how the distortion circuit sounded. Meaning you would need to recreate the distortion circuit and maybe have some controls to allow this type of sound. I have always loved this type of fuzzy.
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Post by andyourbirdcansing »

Playing with my meathead, I swear the meathead could be modified and tweaked to give the hey bulldog sound, my meathead has more gain and more beef but has the vibe. I think the captain could swing it out of the park.
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Post by jimi_dylan »

Wasn't this what the Magical Mystery Box was designed for or was I mistaken?
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Post by kb892 »

the vox amps had a midrange boost feature that is said to have developed into the stand alone wah pedal later. on the vox amps it's a three position switch that roughly correlates to a wah in toe down, mid position, and toe up. combined with the treble and bass tone controls of the circuit plus the distorion it's a little like searching for needle in a haystack to get that tone! (the solo from "sympathy for the devil" is much easier to replicate). this is just my experience from owning stu's first magical mystery box btw so the amps themselves may be a lot different.
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Post by Philip »

Your best bet is to pm stu and see if he'll make you a Magical Mystery Box.

With some EQ tweaking you can get close with a D*A*M Red Rooster mind you, or a Grease Box. :hihi:
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